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Viridian vows independence after Westpac exit

Viridian Financial Group has vowed to maintain its independence from Westpac, with its CEO banking on a model that is “100 per cent owned” by its staff and clients.

by Staff Writer
March 20, 2019
in News
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Viridian confirmed it would acquire part of BT Financial Group as part of Westpac’s abandonment of financial advice.

Composed mainly of ex-Westpac advisers, the company will take on around 175 staff, including approximately 90 advisers from BT Financial Group, following Westpac’s announcement it would exit financial advice.

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Westpac said it would not accept new advice customers and would continue to support existing customers until the expected acquisition completion date of 30 June 2019. Further, it would stop offering financial advice on all licences by 30 September.

Speaking exclusively to ifa, Viridian co-founder and chief executive Glenn Calder said those advisers would be from BT’s salaried channel and no one from any of the aligned licensees.

“It doesn’t include any of the aligned licensees of which we’re going to engage in the next phase, which we’ll be on top of that,” Mr Calder said.

“You’ll see a lot of engagement up until now to the 30 June, and then people who are aligned culturally with the Veridian philosophy will end up aligning themselves either through the licensee model or as an employee connected with Veridian and we will execute that between 1 July and 30 September.”

Regarding the future of the vertically-aligned advice model, Mr Calder said what he’s seen is a fracturing away from the large vertically integrated institutions, which has happened to thousands of smaller businesses.

He said the next evolution of that is the banding together of culturally-aligned people, which is where Viridian had been borne.

“A huge focus on being a tech-centric company and investing in technology is going to be the way of the future so we’re incredibly excited,” Mr Calder said.

“Like the fact that we’re 100 per cent owned by our staff and our clients has [led to] such levels of engagement. We don’t pay any short-term bonuses or commissions to any of our advisers and it’s actually got greater levels of commitment and engagement and results in our business rather than working alone or through the traditional models.”

As part of the Westpac transaction, Viridian said it will also offer BT group licensee practices, currently operating under the Securitor and Magnitude brands, the opportunity to join a Viridian-owned licensee advice model under a separate AFSL being established.

It also intends to acquire the Securitor and Magnitude brands, subject to finalising terms with Westpac.

“Those brands have existed for up to 30 years, so we weren’t comfortable with taking on the associated historical risks with them so we will look to establish a new AFSL for the licensee services and which will define a set of standards and rules by which we expect in the new licensee of the future, if you like, model to exist,” Mr Calder said.

“Again, we’ve been a little bit delayed by the non-disclosure and confidentiality agreements that we’ve been under, which have been quite tight over the last few months, so now that the news has been announced, then we will engage with the regulator, lodge the licence application and looking to execute on 1 July.”

Regarding the three Viridian advisers being pursued by Westpac in the Supreme Court for breaches of contract – Martin Sherwood, Dale Morgan and James Williams – Mr Calder said Westpac has a right to defend its business and that the matter is separate from the transaction with Westpac.

However, he also said the case has led to a really good outcome for advisers in the future where they don’t have to go down that path.

“They’re great advisers and again I can understand Westpac’s position in it and fully support the guys who are now embedded Viridian advisers,” he said. 

“The advice model we probably see in the future is one which is skill of size, which Veridian is now, but our model is one that is unattached to the product manufacturers as such and we’re entirely owned by all of our staff and our clients as well, which is a model which really resonates with our staff.”

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Comments 34

  1. Insights says:
    6 years ago

    Nice to see the new independant viridian attending the US ‘study’ trip funded by BT Wrap
    very insightful

    Reply
  2. MONEYman says:
    7 years ago

    $$$ for new advisors

    Reply
  3. david says:
    7 years ago

    What does the FPA consider INDEPENDANT?

    Reply
  4. James says:
    7 years ago

    Does the abs provisionining apply to these new recruits
    As westpac had a failure rate above 50/ on audits

    Reply
  5. ASIC says:
    7 years ago

    WE ARE WATCHING YOU ?

    Reply
  6. Warwick C says:
    7 years ago

    It seems interesting that no details of the deal are being released. Why the secrecy.
    People it would seem deserve the truth.
    Clients need to make an informed decision.

    As a side note it is interesting that the ex Westpac planners became executives by simply moving to Viridian.

    Reply
  7. Joey says:
    7 years ago

    A company consisting almost exclusively of 100 Westpac advisers? Looks like Westpac’s alter ego to me. If I was the regulator I would be licking my lips..would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Reply
  8. Brad C says:
    7 years ago

    Love how the royal commission has just finished and wbc decide to “sell their clients”. This is nothing but commoditisation of clients. What a joke and what a shame on the bank and Viridian for thinking that clients are a readable asset.

    Reply
  9. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    So westpac executives are selling an asset to a company they have an equity position in. This seems interesting in this environment.

    Reply
  10. Smithy says:
    7 years ago

    Q. Did Viridian accept trail on westpac products that non aligned advisers did not receive
    A. Yes

    Reply
  11. Joey says:
    7 years ago

    Product “agnostic” were Calder’s words in the press. That would only be true if “agnostic” meant putting 100% of your clients into BT Wrap and BT Panorama! Haha haha

    Reply
  12. Peter says:
    7 years ago

    Anonymous 1 day ago.
    Peter there is no provision for hub24 on your (sorry their) website. Good try

    Reply: Maybe you don’t have your information correct – but im not sending you my Hub 24 login and password 🙂

    Reply
  13. headshaker says:
    7 years ago

    Allegedly selling unlisted shares in their own business to clients…. What could possibly go wrong?

    Reply
  14. Joey says:
    7 years ago

    Would like to see a current Viridian share registry list. Wonder if any existing WBC execs are clients and shareholders of Viridian? Both sides of the transaction. Wouldn’t that create a news headline! Nothing like a juicy conflict of interest post Royal Commission!

    Reply
  15. Chantelle says:
    7 years ago

    The negative is here is very disappointing. These are a bunch of really smart guys. They left a business that was losing money on advice and are now making a 10% distribution and a 10% increase in share value, year in year out.
    They are ethical too. If a planner fails to meet their ethical standard they will be unable to liquidate their equity position for a whole year.
    And they are independent too – just ask the AFR.
    They have Westpac Private Bank as a shareholder, and receive a referral fee but they are independent from the Westpac group.
    Lets embrace the new kings of advice. The royal commission has shown us how bad large institutions are in the provision of advice.
    Well done viridian.

    The only question i ask is how much does a valuation increase when the covered call strategy is utilised by an advisor.

    As for the numerous ‘clients’ posting here, all i ask is what would you prefer lower fees or higher divididends?

    Reply
  16. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Peter there is no provision for hub24 on your (sorry their) website. Good try

    Reply
  17. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Have a look at the client section of their website. They are not hiding the fact. I’m sure this will be deleted overnight

    Reply
  18. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Ok. There is something a little odd going on

    https://viridianadvisory.com.au/clients/

    Reply
  19. Jenny says:
    7 years ago

    Can someone explain why Viridian only have the BT logo on the client segment of their website?

    This is in serious contrast to the statement issued by the CEO

    I am in absolute shock they carry out this way after what the industry has been through. Wow.

    Reply
  20. anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    What does all this mean to the person with BT superannuation?

    Reply
  21. Anon says:
    7 years ago

    Sounds like a lot of sore losers in the comments section

    Reply
  22. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Ok Mr Calder , what is your APL , Are you pushing BT products for a pay back , if so are you going to disclose to the new APL to be frank and open and transparent ??Also any secret commissions etc paid back to the bank ??

    Reply
  23. Anon says:
    7 years ago

    How can the sale of the Westpac AFSLs be in their client’s best interest? They had the bank’s balance sheet as some level of protection against the consequences of bad advice now they have what exactly?

    Reply
  24. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Independent? That wasn’t the deal we agreed Glenn all the flows to go to Panorama… yikes what have I done…

    Reply
  25. Peter says:
    7 years ago

    All I can add is I am a relatively new client to Viridian, and I have been recommended to use Hub 24 for my investments, which I believe is not a Westpac platform.

    Reply
  26. Anonymous2 says:
    7 years ago

    I cannot believe Westpac has sold out to this mob or any mob for that matter.
    Irrespective of whether you go and see a Bank Broker or an independent – the advice based on the laws of the land should mean that you are getting good quality advice, and if i choose to walk in to Westpac to get advice, i expect to be sold something aligned to Westpac or CBA etc based on my needs.
    Under this deal, if i was a mortgage broker i would make sure i can align myself to these Viridian Planners and clean up. The Planners will most probably also get an extra referral fee or set up a Newco – who in their right mind would agree to refer their clients for FP advice to Veridian and allow these FP to then on refer to others – its not good business and Westpac should know better
    I also cannot understand why Westpac or any other bank for that matter is afraid to say – we have x number of clients and we have every right to be able to market to them and offer solutions we have available – i know that every Broker does this to their client base as do Financial Planners as do real estate agents as do every other business around the world – why should it be different for Banks??

    Reply
  27. Hawkmoon says:
    7 years ago

    Viridian use a wide range of platforms and will continue to provide the client’s best interests foremost. Not aligned to BT Westpac in any way. Viridian generate revenue from many sources. Investment Management being one of those.

    Reply
  28. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Glad to see the culture of the 3 advisers who got sued is what Viridian is looking to attract and embed…

    Reply
  29. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Hilarious. Advisers are not Dentists or Accountants rolling in the dough, you don’t earn a lot from pure advice. You’re certainly not going to make the return needed when handing out monies buying other licensees and running a large dealer group as well. The ones that are, have a stake in the product. Banks tried to get out of face to face advice years ago. The real money is made via the distribution of product. Next I’ll be hearing from Bridges advisers that they don’t sell Bridges products and that they are independent also. I’m not questioning individual advisers ethics it’s just Bridges makes more money from product then licensing/franchise fees.

    Reply
  30. Andrew says:
    7 years ago

    Hahaha hahaha……. independence whilst using the platform provided by the very guys who sold you a compromised sales force.

    Reply
  31. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Westpac V2

    Reply
  32. Interested says:
    7 years ago

    I’d be interested to know which platform provider Viridian? I hear they use a white label version of BT’s platform. Is the platform remaining with Westpac or moving to Viridian?

    Reply
    • Dinesh says:
      7 years ago

      How could a platform move away from Westpac?

      Reply
    • Anonymous says:
      7 years ago

      Platform is likely to remain a BT Platform

      Reply

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