In an announcement to the ASX, Westpac said it will exit face-to-face financial advice in BT Financial Group, moving the businesses into the consumer and business divisions.
Part of the exit from advice will see Viridian Advisory offer employment to around 175 BT Financial Advice (BTFA) salaried advisers and other management and support staff.
Viridian Advisory will also commence supporting many ongoing advice customers who consent to transition from the anticipated completion date of 30 June 2019.
In addition, BT licensees currently operating under the Securitor and Magnitude brands will be assisted with different options, including self-licensing or moving to another licensee, which may include Viridian Advisory.
Westpac chief executive Brian Hartzer said exiting BT’s financial advice business reflects the changing external environment, including a trend by financial advisers to operate independently, or in smaller advisory groups.
“The decision to exit the provision of personal financial advice by financial advisers under our licence has not been taken lightly, and our priority is to ensure the smoothest possible transition for customers, advisers and support staff,” Mr Hartzer said.
Westpac said it is on track to complete its customer remediation programs in relation to ongoing advice fees for customers of its salaried advisers by fourth quarter 2019.
Further, it said it is continuing to work through its remediation approach for authorised representatives, and that, as part of the change, responsibility for BT remediation programs will move to Westpac chief operating officer Gary Thursby.
Mr Hartzer said BT chief executive Brad Cooper will stay on to ensure the successful transition of BT’s businesses into their new divisions, following which Mr Cooper has indicated that he will leave to seek a new leadership role outside of BT.
“Brad is a highly-regarded executive, whose contribution to the group over the past 12 years spans roles including CEO of Westpac New Zealand, leading the transformation and integration of the St George merger and chief executive of BT Financial Group,” Mr Hartzer said.
“I am grateful for his support over the past seven years and appreciate his leadership in designing the way forward for wealth, as well as staying on to assist in a smooth transition for customers and staff.”
Mr Hartzer said that under Mr Cooper’s leadership, BT has consistently moved ahead of the industry on reform, including removing grandfathered commissions and introducing the first transparent system where customers can rate their adviser.
“Brad has set the group up for further commercial success with our open architecture wealth platform, BT Panorama, which is rapidly attracting advisers and growing FUA – with more than $16 billion now under administration,” he said.
Westpac said the changes announced today are expected to be earnings-per-share positive in 2020 due to exiting a high cost, loss-making business.
The one-off impacts from the transaction and implementation will be spread over FY19 and FY20, with initial estimates including one off costs of between $250 and $300 million, it said. Proceeds from the sale will depend on the size of the business that transitions to Viridian Advisory.
Westpac added that exiting the advice business and moving its wealth businesses into the consumer and the business divisions will result in:
- Removing the cash earnings loss from the advice business ($53 million in FY18 excluding remediation costs); and
- $20 million (pre-tax) of productivity savings from operating one less business division.
The divisional changes will be effective from 1 April 2019 and will not be reflected in Westpac’s 1H19 results.
Outside of BT Financial Group and financial advice, Westpac’s private wealth, platforms and investments, and superannuation businesses will move into an expanded business division, while the insurance business will move into the consumer division.
Mr Hartzer said it is re-aligning its capabilities into the lines of business where it makes most sense based on customer needs.
“Most customers don’t differentiate between banking and wealth products; they want help buying their home, paying their bills, planning for retirement, or protecting the things that matter most to them. They expect professional service that meets their financial needs,” Mr Hartzer said.
“Moving private wealth into the business division recognises that many of our high-net-worth customers have their own businesses or work for many of the companies we bank. Following our significant investment in Panorama and the launch of BT Open Services, we now have market leading platforms where the natural customer base is also primarily found in our business division.
“Similarly, superannuation – including corporate superannuation, and support for SMSFs – is strongly linked to our business division.”
In addition, Mr Hartzer said the move of insurance into consumer will make it easier to meet the insurance needs of its retail customers and deliver a better and more integrated experience for customers as well as simplifying Westpac’s structure.
“These changes allow us to focus investment in areas where we have a competitive advantage, such as platforms and insurance. It also follows previous strategic decisions the group has made about how it operates in wealth, including its decision to divest or sell-down its asset management businesses (BTIM – now Pendal, Hastings, and Ascalon), as well as partnering with Allianz to provide certain insurance products,” Mr Hartzer said.




Hmm is it time for me to change super funds?! My financial advisor didn’t tell me he had left Westpac but has since advised I switch from BT Wrap to BT Super Invest. Silly question…if I stick with BT Wrap and make voluntary contributions who will invest my super now that I don’t have a financial advisor linked to the fund? Wondering whether to jump ship to Host Plus.
Good point Curious. Albeit they still have BT platforms under their client tabs. Yes, that is correct and not spellcheck. Under the client tab of their website they not have the BT logo but unashamedly describe BT wrap and BT panorama. When is ASIC going to put a stop to this scam?
It is interesting that they have removed all reference to their lending business from the website
Wonder if Viridian will complete due diligence checks on the new planners being acquired.
It is all very conveniently suspicious to me. By the way has anyone asked the existing customers how they feel about this? I live in qld how is viridian going to service me?
[quote=Anonymous]This is the Bridges and Credit Union model all over. Have a think about this. A Viridian Office opening next door to you, run by ex-Westpac planners and their Westpac clients, planners trained by Westpac Sales Managers, pumping money into Westpac owned BT on the basis of getting Westpac referrals into the future….and at the same time claiming they are independently minded and yet quite separate to Westpac. I can only see this ending with more regulation and red tape for those of us genuinely trying to be independent.
At least when the consumer walked into Westpac you got sold a Westpac product. I can’t see how this is good, for Advice in Australia. [/quote][quote=Anonymous]This is the Bridges and Credit Union model all over. Have a think about this. A Viridian Office opening next door to you, run by ex-Westpac planners and their Westpac clients, planners trained by Westpac Sales Managers, pumping money into Westpac owned BT on the basis of getting Westpac referrals into the future….and at the same time claiming they are independently minded and yet quite separate to Westpac. I can only see this ending with more regulation and red tape for those of us genuinely trying to be independent.
At least when the consumer walked into Westpac you got sold a Westpac product. I can’t see how this is good, for Advice in Australia. [/quote]
Sad. I was involved with the establishment of the Westpac Personal Investment Centres (PIC an “independent” of Westpac, providing good, suitable Financial Advice) in the late 80’s and was transferred by the Bank to Tamworth in 1987. Had a wonderful “book” of clients and all was going well until Westpac entered into an alliance with AMP to form Westpac Life. When just a PIC Planner I was paid the same as a Bank Officer, no commission, all that went straight to the Bank…I was paid the same as an equivalent Branch Officer or Manager. All that changed when the AMP salesmen were employed…pushed and pushed the Bank to have them (and hence us) paid the Commission and ridiculously high salaries. No training, no experience and just ripping clients off…we could see what was designed going down hill..failed to obey stipulations and directives of the Bank and had the support of AMP, the Bank just seemed to “give up” and this is the end result.
Another one bites the dust
I must say I’m a little bemused by this all
So westpac are citing the growth of self licensing as the driving factor
Fact
They cannot control the governance and hundreds of millions of dollars in remediation for fee for no service
So wait a minute let’s encourage self licensing so that we minimise any financial or reputations impact to shareholders
And the poor self licenced advisers who sign up to veridian who don’t know any better are on the hook for the full gravity of fee for no service
If any practice has any sense make sure you check out the capability governance and compliance frameworks first before you await the impending call from ASIC
And if you don’t see this find a group that can effectively do this
They are are out there you just need to look hard enough
Westpac would still be on the hook for any complaints or compensation for advice prior to a planner changing afsls
So will Viridian attempt to say they are independant. Or will they stand up and state the fact they have conflicted remuneration in their veins, and the whole business has significant conflicted revenue through their buy sell strategy at a cheap 200 basis points.
If I see an Industry Fund planner, do they recommend Industry funds? Just asking.
Yes, and Westpac will now do the same.
This simply paves the way for ASIC to [b]ban Westpac from providing financial services[/b] in say a year or two…
How good. Westpac wants to help “a trend by financial advisers to operate independently”
Viridian owns (or part owns) an asset management business and an SMSF admin platform
Almost all of Viridian’s clients money is invested via BT/Panorama wraps (Westpac).
Good to see this move will assist the planners to be acting more independently.
westpac private bank owns part of the big V
No they don’t.
This deal was and always will be best for customers considering I’m a customer of Viridian which makes me a shareholder. Thank you westpac for making me rich
This is the Bridges and Credit Union model all over. Have a think about this. A Viridian Office opening next door to you, run by ex-Westpac planners and their Westpac clients, planners trained by Westpac Sales Managers, pumping money into Westpac owned BT on the basis of getting Westpac referrals into the future….and at the same time claiming they are independently minded and yet quite separate to Westpac. I can only see this ending with more regulation and red tape for those of us genuinely trying to be independent.
At least when the consumer walked into Westpac you got sold a Westpac product. I can’t see how this is good, for Advice in Australia.
Haters gonna hate. Why as a Financial Planning community do we have to bash each other like this. I, like you, have no idea how this will be run, but at least I will give them a chance to operate their business before passing judgement.
what we need is love, love, love
does anybody believe in love anymore
love your neighbour
love the banks
love me I love you
So true. People can not read between the lines.
Clients are already being fed propaganda.
This is a massive change, as they lose the security of Westpac and have the security of the boutique.
Pretty sad actually. It has some Great people and was once a Great Business
The Royal Commission should have smacked the arse of all banks and Banned Them All from running a Financial Planning Business for ever. They all got off so lightly and now leave it behind for us to rebuild the damage they all got away with for too long. I can only pray that our collective Licensees do their due diligence if they consider recruiting from any of the banks adviser groups
Isn’t viridian the advice business Westpac sued in court and now they are in business together? What the????????
The viridian website has a ‘clients’ menu with 3 logins to investment accounts: BT Wrap, BT Panorama and Viridian Portfolio Management. Gee, no conflict of interest there!
Headshaker
Sir, you have no idea what you have so intelligently observed. This deal is very sinister and I think it’s in the public interest to understand what you have uncovered.
Petty I know but, “Westpac chief executive Brian Hartzer said exiting BT’s financial advice business reflects the changing external environment, including a trend by financial advisers to operate [b]independently[/b][i][/i], or in smaller advisory groups.”
Quick ASIC…somebody used the word ‘independantly!” Better send your bully boys around and lynch him up to the highest flagpole. How dare he use such an offensive and misleading word – what a crime!!!
Cute histrionics.
Members of the IFAAA are using the word independence everyday, what’s the issue here?
Great news this, financial advice industry is starting to be left behind. This is another step towards financial planning making it’s way towards a profession.
Hi Matthew, just wondering on your views about whether if some one runs their own portfolios and takes a clip if they are independent (such as Collins House)? Secondly, what about someone recommending a SMSF and then recommending their Accounting firm produce the tax return?
Hardly independant if Veridian only sells BT badged products or just so happens to sell the majority , whats its APL again ? …. Lets the games begin Brian….( ie Will amp sell out to a group that predominantly only sells AMP ) .
The challenge for AMP would be finding a group that only sells AMP.
No mention of the planners and support staff who are not part of the 175 going to Viridian ?
They’re screwed. What’s to say?
Mmmmm, i wonder how much of the Viridian business flows into BT Wrap, Wespac mngd Funds, etc ?
Seeming to cease Vertical Integration but in reality a cosy outsource and effectively the same thing ?
What who would be sceptical of the Banks 🙄
Have you tried placing money into Panorama? It’s like rub your head, dance on one leg, turn around 5 times, bend over and finally perform a handstand. BT dosen’t need admin staff when they’ve outsourced so much to the client and adviser.
If only FASEA was this easy…
Oh “A high cost loss making business “. Should ensure encouragement for the proposed floats of any other financial advise business????? soon