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IFA sector digs deep for Dover

The independent and non-bank financial advice community is opening doors for former Dover authorised representatives, despite the regulator’s steely gaze on their movements.

by Staff Writer
June 18, 2018
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On a sweaty, humid morning in Havana, Cuba, this week, members of the AIOFP held a special executive meeting during their 20th anniversary conference to discuss an important item of business: the fate of Dover’s almost-400 authorised representatives. 

Since ifa’s exclusive publication of a letter from Dover director Terry McMaster to his advisers announcing a shock closure of the business following an ASIC “negotiation” and “agreement” on Friday, 8 June, hundreds of SME financial advice practices aligned to Dover have been desperately trying to find alternative licensing arrangements in order to continue trading.

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The AIOFP members present – which included a number of non-institutional AFSL holders ranging from sole operators to large dealer group networks – expressed clear compassion for their Dover-aligned peers.

“It’s just wrong,” said a fired up AIOFP executive director Peter Johnston, referring to the short notice provided to Dover authorised representatives and their alleged treatment by the corporate regulator.

Mr Johnston revealed that in the immediate aftermath of the announcement, he was able to canvass support among AIOFP members, with “seven large licensees and 15 smaller licensees putting up their hands” to take on Dover advisers.

He said the movement of Dover advisers to new AFSLs in a timely fashion is the “most important” issue they must resolve in the short term, beyond other long-term legal or commercial considerations. 

Several of the licensees present at the meeting explained that they are in various stages of discussion or on-boarding of Dover advisers.

Other licensees such as Shartru Wealth and Bluewater Advisers have also publicly come forward on social media to express their regret for the Dover situation and invite Dover advisers to join their ranks.

The openness confirms comments by a Dover adviser to ifa that licensees have been unexpectedly forthcoming “contrary” to their “initial fears”, such as the blanket invitation issued by Aon Hewitt.

It also comes as ASIC has demonstrated some hostility to the Dover network in the wake of the shock announcement. 

The corporate regulator issued a statement on Tuesday, 12 June recommending that clients of Dover strongly consider moving their business to a third-party not associated with the licensee, in a move likely to exacerbate stress for the Dover community.

In his explosive letter to authorised representatives, Mr McMaster indicated that ASIC will be watching the wind down of the licence “closely”. 

Moreover, Mr Johnston referred to “rumours” that ASIC has informed licensees taking on Dover advisers that they will face additional supervision and monitoring. 

While the overall tone was one of sympathy and support for the Dover authorised representatives, one of the AIOFP members present – a senior executive at a large non-bank licensee speaking under Chatham House rules – offered a more practical assessment of the situation.

“We will take some [Dover advisers] on, but we will assess them individually on a case-by-case basis,” he said. 

“I acknowledge we can sometimes be too conservative but we have a moral obligation to vet them appropriately. 

“Some will struggle to find a new licence. We have knocked back a number already. Some may lose their practices.”

Beyond the IFA movement, the XY Adviser network has also established a number of resources for the Dover advisers, alongside internal efforts established by the Dover community itself.

ASIC has confirmed that it has been investigating Dover since 2017, but has remained silent on the reasons for the investigation.

An ASIC spokesperson has confirmed to ifa that ultimate responsibility for closing the licensee was the decision of Mr McMaster and Dover leadership.

Mr McMaster has declined requests for interview. 

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  1. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

    Reply
  2. now open says:
    7 years ago

    i have a feeling terry will make a comeback

    Reply
  3. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    How about support for the employees that will be losing there jobs? I have reached out and there is the opportunity to hire staff, anyone in Victoria looking?

    Reply
  4. Rob Coyte says:
    7 years ago

    All Individuals in this country have a right to be innocent until proven guilty. Furthermore, they have the right to provide and support their family unless decided by a court (or in our sector the regulator) they are not fit to operate within an area of operation. A lot of good people have inadvertently been caught up in a shit storm that is not their making.

    Reply
    • anonymous says:
      7 years ago

      thanks to rob and shartru wealth for taking on and assisting dover advisers and employees. well done and congratulations and maybe that independent dover culture can permeate shartru and the industry again in the future best wishes

      Reply
  5. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    Hello Everyone, i want to start a campaign to save Dover. Who’s with me ? anyone ? c’mon please join me

    Reply
    • Joe Blow says:
      7 years ago

      You may want to kickstart with your name… I’m guessing your mummy did not name you “anonymous”

      Reply
      • Gav says:
        7 years ago

        Seems to be the most popular name in Australia right now…or at least on this forum.

        Reply
      • Momma's Boy says:
        7 years ago

        what’s your problem.

        Reply
  6. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    [i]’An ASIC spokesperson has confirmed to ifa that ultimate responsibility for closing the licensee was the decision of Mr McMaster and Dover leadership.'[/i] Did that ASIC spokesperson agree they knocked back Dover’s request to operate until the end of the year to allow their advisers to apply for their own licence or move to another licensee in an orderly manner? According to the AFR, that’s what they did. ASIC needs to come clean on this. We need to know exactly what happened.

    Reply
  7. Annoymous says:
    7 years ago

    Join Sychron, most ASIC bulletproof licensee in the country. With their 4 page Risk Insurance Only SOA, ASIC approved and more importantly they have relevant connections in ASIC so they never receive enforceable undertakings or bannings. Don has a very strong relationship with ASIC. Dover advisers must move to Sycron.

    Reply
    • Anonymous says:
      7 years ago

      Synchron is a great AFSL. But no one is bulletproof nor is any SOA ASIC approved. I can only assume you are not a Synchron AR because a comment like that is just plain ridiculous as Synchron doesn’t hold that view of themselves.

      Reply
    • Anonymous says:
      7 years ago

      Why do you keep posting the on every article? You are obviously not a fan of Synchron.

      Reply
  8. T says:
    7 years ago

    [i]“On a sweaty, humid morning in Havana, Cuba, this week, members of the AIOFP held a special executive meeting during their 20th anniversary conference” [/i]….:good for public perception

    Reply
  9. Interesting? says:
    7 years ago

    Shouldnt the point of this article be that people from AIOFP were in Cuba???? hardly a mecca of financial success.

    Reply
  10. Anonymous says:
    7 years ago

    If ASIC cant Trust its approved Dealer Groups to do the right thing in appointing representatives, it should licence all advisers itself.

    Reply
    • Anonymous says:
      7 years ago

      I AGREE WITH THIS

      Reply
  11. Socrates says:
    7 years ago

    Paul, you are incorrect. Again kangaroo court.

    Reply
  12. GPH says:
    7 years ago

    The classic example of guilty until proven innocent!
    Why would ASIC suddenly decided that a previously well run dealer group will drop the ball by bringing on new advisers? Surely there is enough collective awareness in the dealer group world of what would be required to ensure the advisers (ex Dover in this instance) being “on-boarded” are appropriately reviewed and brought up to speed with the new compliance regime of the new group?
    This alleged threat to dealer groups by ASIC (if true) is nothing short of corporate bullying.
    It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

    Reply
    • Jimmy says:
      7 years ago

      And thru all of this ASIC still havent said what it was about Dover that had them cancelling their AFSL yet allowing CBA (CFP & Finwiz) and AMP (AMPFP & Hillross) to continue to trade. I just dont get it.

      Then to further crucify the advisers with this type of threat to any AFSL who picks up ex-Dover advisers….it just beggars belief. Have all 400+ advisers been providing deficient advice? Is it just a handful? Or is it something that ASIC had issue with at the corporate level?

      Reply
      • Anonymous says:
        7 years ago

        ITS CALLED CORRUPTION

        Reply
      • Anonymous says:
        7 years ago

        ASIC have a PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST DOVER (terry mcmasters)

        Reply
        • Anonymous says:
          7 years ago

          everyone was jealous of Terry’s growing fame. as previously said, he was a thought leader but australia doesn’t like tall poppies

          Reply
      • Anonymous says:
        7 years ago

        I’m guessing it may have been difficulty in obtaining new PI insurance given the ASIC investigation and Royal Commission fallout.

        Just a guess.

        Reply
  13. Paul betti afa says:
    7 years ago

    Disnt storm advisers join dover? The industry never learns from nature of culling of the weak in order for the strong to survive

    Reply
    • innocent until proven guilty says:
      7 years ago

      disagree.. individual consideration please (and no assumptions). It is fair that only those planners that are not up to it should be banned.. I am sure that there are many who have been unfairly treated… our industry is better than that.. it is a disgrace that all planners have been tarnished with the same brush.. just not right – where are the morals here?

      Reply
    • Unknown Soldier says:
      7 years ago

      Storm fell over years and years ago, and were absolutely and completely different from Dover.

      In addition [I had a chance to analyse some of their funds and advice], many people made[b] a lot [/b]of money with them over a long time [from the 1990’s], and a large portion of their demise was caused by external causes, including Financial Institutional abuse and mismanagement.

      Reply

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