Speaking to ifa, the Bachrach and Associates Inc (BAI) founder and financial adviser said the fact that financial advisers don’t seek financial advice themselves is “hypocritical” and “the most embarrassing thing about our business”.
“You read all the time about how Australians are underinsured and that you have a major insurance problem here in Australia,” Mr Bachrach said.
“I laugh and think, ‘I wonder if financial planners are any better?’” he said. “I know the answer to that: they are not.”
Mr Bachrach’s comments come after ifa asked a number of advisers and key industry figures how important it is to the value proposition of a financial planning business that advisers seek financial advice themselves.
Strategic Solutions Australia director Wayne Roggero told ifa that while there is no evidence of how many advisers have advisers themselves, he does not believe many do – “for a whole range of different reasons”.
“It could be that advisers don’t feel another adviser could add to what they know, or it could be that they believe they can do it themselves,” he said.
“I have come across a few advisers who said they use an adviser – but not many.”
Mr Roggero warned of the dangers involved when advisers decide to look after their own financial affairs.
“Over the years, there have been advisers that have got themselves into financial hardship because they didn’t follow their own advice,” he said.
“For some advisers it would be very much beneficial to them that they did have a financial planner other than themselves, while for others I don’t know that it’s necessary unless they’re after specific information that is not in their field.”
A medical practitioner will self-diagnose and then decide whether he wants to go to another doctor or not, Mr Roggero said.
“I would hope that is what advisers do as well,” he said.
For Quantum Financial principal Tim Mackay the issue comes down to accountability.
“A doctor wouldn’t operate on themselves; they wouldn’t self-diagnose,” Mr Mackay told ifa. “It’s all about accountability and having an independent party work with you to have a financial plan,” he said.
“I think if you truly believe in financial planning then a financial planner should have their own financial planner.”
What it plays into is a key aspect of financial advice: that of being coached and being financially accountable, AFA chief executive Brad Fox told ifa.
“It adds an extra layer of discipline,” he said. “I certainly know of cases where financial advisers have financial advisers themselves.”
While the FOFA reforms focus on conflicted remuneration and fee structures, BAI’s Bill Bachrach believes this issue cuts to the heart of financial advice reform.
“They want to regulate that you disclose that you’re connected to a bank, they want to regulate that you disclose what all your fees are,” Mr Bachrach said. “Those are the easy things.
“If the regulators want to put in a rule, the rule should be: if you give others financial advice, if you are a financial planner, you must have a financial planner yourself and you must pay that person their full fee,” he said.
“I want to see your plan, I want to see your statement of advice and I want to see that you’re implementing.”
Mr Bachrach – a financial planning coach who uses an adviser himself – said that if he were the regulator, he would have new advisers show that they are on track after three years.
“I am a client of what I teach,” he said.
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[quote name=”Oh Please!”]This industry never fails to constantly amuse me! If it’s not some corny marketing idea to certain genders or stereo types it nonsense like this. Of course a doctor wouldn’t operate on himself you moron!! It’s hardly a comparable scenario. If your a mess financially, if you can’t be a success financially, well GET OUT OF THIS INDUSTRY. End of story. Every adviser should be scrutinised in depth in their personal wealth & financial success. How they made it and any inheritance disallowed. Then, depending on your wealth & how you made it you obtain a license to practice wealth advice. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! Will it FPA or Kaplan? Naaaah.[/quote]
I agree, in part, should we be checking our doctors healthrecords prior to seeing them, if they are not in perfect health we look for someone who is? So if your not independently wealthy you should not be precticing as a financial planner……. confusing?
This industry never fails to constantly amuse me! If it’s not some corny marketing idea to certain genders or stereo types it nonsense like this. Of course a doctor wouldn’t operate on himself you moron!! It’s hardly a comparable scenario. If your a mess financially, if you can’t be a success financially, well GET OUT OF THIS INDUSTRY. End of story. Every adviser should be scrutinised in depth in their personal wealth & financial success. How they made it and any inheritance disallowed. Then, depending on your wealth & how you made it you obtain a license to practice wealth advice. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! Will it FPA or Kaplan? Naaaah.
So there we sat one Friday afternoon, three of us with a beer in hand, all CFP’s; one a principal of the business (and a person who features on commercial radio today); another, a two-I.C. and CFP; and myself (a CFP). With beer in hand we hypothesised and theorised about how I look after two-I.C. financial affairs; two-I.C. looks after principal’s financial affairs; while principal looks after mine. We all agreed that sometime we all tend to think that we know ‘better than the average punter’ and sometimes better for our own good. We all thought that many a great person has their own advisers to bounce ideas. None of us had the conviction to follow through but we agreed this was a great idea and we were not even into our third beer by this stage. I agree James, we all need a helicopter view of our affairs because sometimes it is difficult to see the wood from the trees (hic)
Seriously, Bill?
Get real.
Let people lead their own life and manage their finance the way they like. Not everyone is in the game of making money. Other people like to enjoy simple things, right?
James Mitchel….You are legend and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Isn’t it interesting that Practicing Investment Advisers don’t agree…Most full of their own importance.
I will always implement my own financial planning strategies, but I do have close confidents that I will ask for an opinion. I think we have to be mindful that although we know what we are doing as financial advisers, it doesn’t hurt to have someone removed from the emotion and subjectivity of our situation to cast an eye over what we are doing in our own situation. I have always done this informally with a good friend and I check his planning. Two heads are better than one?
I budget, am insured as is my wife for more than enough, I have goals that I work towards both financial and personal, I review my situation frequently, and I am on-track to where it is that I want to be. I absolutely love what I do for a living and am confident in my own ability (not saying I am closed off to others views, anything but). I am a fan of some of Mr Bachrach’s teachings but not 100%. Belated Happy St Patrick’s Day to you all.
i find this article to be extremely insulting and patronising. As an adviser I plan for my own retirement, budgeting and insurance needs, why on Earth would I go to another adviser to tell me to do the same things I’d be doing anyway? Seriously if you cant plan your own finances then you probably arent a very good adviser.
Is it regulated that doctors see another doctor if they dont feel well? Seriously Bert? er Bill.